kumimonster: (marlaRedCraze)
ok
so while im going on and on about fetish models that dont do nude
(yet still want to make a living doing this non-porn stuff, yeah right)

so once in a while, usually always, i've noticed the girls that dont go nude, end up getting themselves in pretty raunchy positions.
the safety of their panties protects them from otherwise tonsil viewing spreads from below. they pose in those stances which has their ass in the air and while looking back at the camera with an oh-so-tough look, one hand grasps an asscheek tightly pulling it aside to give a full on starfish view. oh, but there isnt, because there is a bit of underwear down there and that doesnt count.

even if you're just bent over for a spanking scene, some of that stuff is long and dark. the fact that the front is bare as a baby's bottom enhances this fact as does wearing white cotton panties.

most models i've run into shave. some dont which is fine, but if you're going to do the front, consistancy please! remember you have a back end. especially if someone's face or lens (or both) is going to be in proximity!

i havent run into this when working with girls that do porn (fetish or mainstream or whatever). just usually girls that do fetish that dont do naked stuff...

then there are the foot fetish shoots where models show up with nasty trench foot n toes... GAHHHHH

hmmm
is this kinda tmi?
photogs: what do you tell your models to do?
i mean, you're the ones that get the full and unedited version before the magic of photoshop...
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Date/Time: 2006-10-31 14:11 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] mistralmadriiax.livejournal.com
mrphshhpahahahahah
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Date/Time: 2006-10-31 15:03 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] kumimonster.livejournal.com
and get rid of the inch+ long ass hair?
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Date/Time: 2006-10-31 17:11 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] sokkmonkey.livejournal.com
Dude, hoop wax is critical.
Even for the non-nudes, that rogue ass hair you didn't see while shooting can worm out of the bikini area and ruin your week.

WTF with unshaven modles anyway?
Like even in a coctail dress, an inch and a half of muff just looks dag nasty.
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Date/Time: 2006-10-31 19:02 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] styggian.livejournal.com
This is great, I'm going to remember this.
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Date/Time: 2006-10-31 19:50 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] styggian.livejournal.com
Either that or a machette as a surprise gift..lol
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Date/Time: 2006-10-31 20:21 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] styggian.livejournal.com
Your's is more practical but mine has the comedic value to it.
I guess though, if she has a machette you better be sure not to ever really piss her off.
Date/Time: 2006-11-01 03:32 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] theda-b.livejournal.com
we don't shave to bother you.
Date/Time: 2006-11-01 17:41 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] sokkmonkey.livejournal.com
Oh not a bother for me, when unsightly hair photos need to be circulated to places where it is culturally unappealing, photoshop can work wonders.

What does bother me is feeding drugs to cats.

Date/Time: 2006-10-31 16:57 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] kalakumari.livejournal.com
hahaha! I mean eww gross, those ladies are skanks.
Date/Time: 2006-10-31 17:02 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] evilgrins.livejournal.com
added someone new to my friendslist that has a latex Star Trek uniform; it sorta fits her :P
Date/Time: 2006-10-31 17:22 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] slinka.livejournal.com
I've never understood "fetish models" who won't do nudes. Don't they understand that fetish imagery is for sexual purposes?
Date/Time: 2006-11-01 03:30 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] theda-b.livejournal.com
nuh-uh! it's not pron! you can be a fetish supermoel without ever showing your nips!
Date/Time: 2006-11-02 10:33 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] kumimonster.livejournal.com
they dont have to do nudes
but if they're going to go for uber hoor positions and gestures, then maybe a shift of limits might do?
Date/Time: 2006-10-31 17:51 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] gothicimage.livejournal.com
"photogs: what do you tell your models to do?"

It's never been a problem, but then I don't believe that "Fetish" implies "Nude"!
Date/Time: 2006-10-31 19:19 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] kumimonster.livejournal.com
oh of course it doesnt
but then i had a shoot that involved a model that was way not into getting nude
then did one of those ass spreading poses
with well, stuff all pokin out n stuff

not that she was into being hairy, just didnt think ...
Date/Time: 2006-10-31 19:53 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] styggian.livejournal.com
They seem to think there is something wrong with it and as long as they have the undies they are all right.
I could kind of liken this to people around here who go out to bars, get drunk, go home with some random person, and then get up the next day and go to church and still have the "holier than thou" attitude.
Date/Time: 2006-11-01 18:33 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] wrongjeremy.livejournal.com
Or "Ass Virgins" who think they're still virgins because they only have oral and anal sex.
Date/Time: 2006-11-01 19:01 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] styggian.livejournal.com
Yeah, that's just silly.
Date/Time: 2006-10-31 18:27 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] emil-d-minty.livejournal.com
don't go ruining all our perceptions that all models are hairless goddesses .
Date/Time: 2006-10-31 18:46 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] zille.livejournal.com
If the shoot calls for something specific, I will send the model a detailed list of how she needs to prep in advance. (If it's a friend we usually just discuss it so I don't need to send the list. If it's a new model I send the list in advance so that if she has any issues we can get them out in the open.)

If I'm just shooting someone, and a "flaw" exposes itself, I just change angles, or ask the model to try a different pose, so you can't see the offending item.
Date/Time: 2006-10-31 19:04 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] styggian.livejournal.com
This sounds like a very good idea.
If you are going to be taking nude pictures of them you should be able to discuss hair removal etc.
Date/Time: 2006-10-31 19:36 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] zille.livejournal.com
You'd think that, wouldn't you! [grins]

You have to be very polite about it, and very proffesional. (And it helps me that I'm a girl!)
Date/Time: 2006-10-31 19:48 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] styggian.livejournal.com
That was the word I was thinking of but it wouldn't pop into my head...professional.
People are actually more comfortable having nude pictures taken of them than they are discussing shaving or whatever?
I can see that in an odd way but that doesn't make it make any more sense..lol
I see your name around a lot and it seems we have several mutual friends so it is nice to "meet" you.
Date/Time: 2006-10-31 20:32 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] gothicimage.livejournal.com
Who said that life ever made sense? :-)
Date/Time: 2006-10-31 20:34 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] styggian.livejournal.com
It did that one time remember?
Life made more sense back in the 80's because I was little ;)
Date/Time: 2006-10-31 20:36 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] everyinchofme.livejournal.com
I occasionally do fetish (shibari, etc), but not enough for me to say that I'm a "fetish" model. (I don't actually consider my costume stuff to be fetish, but it probably is to someone.) I'm more of a niche model, and therefore non-nude by choice. And not because I have a thing against nudity, but simply because it isn't for me.
Date/Time: 2006-11-01 03:36 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] theda-b.livejournal.com
it took me a while to figure out you must have been talking about g-strings. I was all, "how the hell can you see ass hair through panties?" Gotcha. I'm one of those weird chciks tht gets bare-assed naked, but won't spread my ass cheeks or simulate blowjobs et al because i know the difference between sex and nudity.
Date/Time: 2006-11-02 10:35 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] kumimonster.livejournal.com
yup. that thin bit o fabric that dont cover shit.
i dont care if the model is hairy, if that is her thing
but why wash the front of the car if you're not going to do the back end)?
Date/Time: 2006-11-01 14:47 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] james-the-evil1.livejournal.com
What REALLY kills me are the ones who say they're fetish & burlesque models (almost all the ones who say they're fetish but non-nude also cite burlesque now) and list as their heros Bettie Page and other stars (hell, I've seen a few list you Kumi, you're a role model) and then STILL say "no nudes." To me that seems like a bit of an insult to say someone's your hero and then refuse to emulate them. There's something wrong with these people.
Date/Time: 2006-11-02 10:38 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] kumimonster.livejournal.com
no one should list me as a role model.
no one that knows me as just a fetish model.
HAH
Date/Time: 2006-11-01 14:58 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] zig-madsisterz.livejournal.com
actually it can be different kind of nudity... isn't it? i mean there is erotic and there is porn....

but yeah when it's not shaved... ewww..... i still cant understand why people dont shave *confuse*
Date/Time: 2006-11-02 10:37 (UTC)Posted by: [identity profile] kumimonster.livejournal.com
fetish is sexual. and in the end, can be considered porn.
erotica is just a different word that makes it sound more elitist,
though of course, there is a slight difference. i do both tho i consider all of it porn in the end (except for the fashion fetish stuff).

the others can shave as they wish. there are those that dont want to. that is completely fine, but that's like only washing the front of the house, and not doing the backyard when you have an open house day and guests are coming over!